Apparently New Jersey does this now

"Honeybunchesofgoats" (honeybunche0fgoats) 07/11/2016 at 09:10 • Filed to: None

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Beginning May 1, 2016, the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission has changed the inspection requirements for certain vehicles. Due to the cessation of tailpipe emission testing, the following passenger vehicles now will be exempted from inspection:

Gasoline powered vehicles registered passenger, model year 1995 & older with a GVWR 8,500 pounds or less.

Gasoline powered vehicles registered passenger, model year 2007 & older with a GVWR 8,501 to 14,000 pounds.

Gasoline powered vehicles registered passenger, model year 2013 & older with a GVWR 14,001 pounds or more. (More reason than ever to get a Unimog!)

Someday the under 8,500lbs will reach reach 2001 and I’ll never again have to sit in line at the inspection station in fear that my Jag will cycle the emission test and throw its small evap leak code.

ETA: Or not, since it seems to be based on OBDII. But do larger cars from 2007 on not have OBDII?

Stapleface > Honeybunchesofgoats 07/11/2016 at 09:31

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Hmmm. Seems almost counter-intuitive to me. I would think/assume that the older vehicles would be the worst polluters. Or, I wonder if the logic is that there aren’t a ton of these on the road anymore, so they shouldn’t waste the inspection station’s time with it?

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Honeybunchesofgoats 07/11/2016 at 09:35

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I believe that OBDII was not required in 2500 series or larger trucks until 2007 or 2008. I used a 2006 van that didn’t have one.

jariten1781 > Honeybunchesofgoats 07/11/2016 at 09:38

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If it’s like most of the other states that went this way they get rid of sniffers and just do OBD-II from when it was required in that class. The OBD-II check is required every year or two indefinitely unless you want to get an antique tag with restrictions.

smobgirl > Stapleface 07/11/2016 at 09:38

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Probably this. They may have also realized that emissions tests for older poorly running vehicles can be a big financial hardship for lower-income folks. We’ve had some debate along those lines here.

petebmwm > Honeybunchesofgoats 07/11/2016 at 10:03

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Also in the northeast, alot if the older cars have rotted away .... on the plus side, i dont need to inspect the m3!!

Honeybunchesofgoats > petebmwm 07/11/2016 at 10:11

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I just went through inspection and had to ask the guy if the camera was showing the underside of my car, because I couldn’t believe that there wasn’t a speck of rust on the underbody.

Honeybunchesofgoats > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 07/11/2016 at 10:11

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Huh, I had no idea. I figured that everything had OBDII since it became standard.

Honeybunchesofgoats > jariten1781 07/11/2016 at 10:13

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I’m actually a little confused about that. In NJ they have two exempt classes; “historic” and “collector.” I haven’t had any reason to look into it, but it seems like only “collector” cars have the 3,000 miles a year restriction.

petebmwm > Honeybunchesofgoats 07/11/2016 at 10:25

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Yeah, thats how they look for cats, they used to have a mirror on a stick

jariten1781 > Honeybunchesofgoats 07/11/2016 at 10:26

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I don't recall if VA's has a mileage restriction, but it's worded something like 'May only be driven for pleasure or going to and from events'. IE, you can't use it to carry out day-to-day business. What that means in practice is that the police troll the parking lots at train stations, airports, grocery stores, universities, etc and nab folks who are using it for a standard or even occasional regular driver. Penalties are fairly draconian as well (registration is immediately revoked and the car can't be registered for 3-5, don't remember the exact amount, years plus a fine).

Honeybunchesofgoats > jariten1781 07/11/2016 at 10:44

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What if I derive pleasure from any and all driving?

I just checked NJ’s restrictions for historic cars and it seems even stricter. They say that the car can “only be used for exhibition and educational purposes by the owner.”

I don’t know what the penalties are but I think they’re probably similar. Now that I think about it, I once had a guy in an 80s Dodge Van back into my passenger door when he was backing out of a spot in a parking lot. He had it either registered as a collectible or historic car, and by the time the cops told me I could leave, they were telling him that they were going to impound the van because he 1) was using it for daily business and 2) there was no way that can should ever have been registered as a classic in the first place.

I actually felt really bad for him, but not too bad since he somehow reversed out of that spot fast enough to punch a hole through my door.

Honeybunchesofgoats > petebmwm 07/11/2016 at 10:47

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My cat used to hide under chairs and attacked me when I walked by. Now I’m imagining using a mirror on a stick to check under my car for feral cats

jariten1781 > Honeybunchesofgoats 07/11/2016 at 11:06

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Heh, I’m sure people have tried that before. One of the requirements, actually, is that to be issued an antique plate you must always have another, regular use, vehicle registered in your name so they’ve kind of got the ‘I just love driving’ thing covered.